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In this episode of dialoguing, Kaitlyn and her husband talk about complaining, Ghostbusters and business (trust me, this will make sense), grief around summer, and our relationship to rest.

We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

Show Notes:

• Newsletters: "I didn't realize you were just having fun." & (shocker) trying too damn hard and too damn much backfired.

• Article on being an island or a wave in attachment.

• Tricia Hersey’s book, Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto and interview on NPR