Taylor Swift is the Detroit Lions as the Detroit Lions are Taylor Swift

In this episode, Kaitlyn, from the newsletter dialoguing on Substack, and her husband explore personal fears underlying social anxiety, how they can form, and possible evolutionary influences. They also revisit a defensive interaction and the complexity of wanting your partner to go to the therapy.

We are on Apple Podcasts here and Spotify here. Feel free to listen and/or leave a review there as well!

Show Notes:

Despite the premise of the show, we reflect on very few newsletters this time, but here are some that have come out since the last podcast was released, as well as one* that is relevant to our conversation around social anxiety.

• 96 Thoughts This Therapist Had While Listening to THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT for the First Time

• What Others Couldn’t See May Have Been The Truest Thing About Me

• The Single Most Important Thing I Do For My Mental Health

• What If We Just Did What We Could?

• What If It's Actually Secure to Say You Feel Insecure?*